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Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility
Casoff
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Posted - 2013.11.22 17:38:00 -
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I haven't read the thread, sorry. Here's my idea:
Above the buy orders, place a little information box with a triangular yellow hazard symbol  . Next to the hazard symbol, a text box notifies players that buy orders are not guaranteed, and without ISK backing they may collapse. A tooltip may give more information.
All the information the player needs to know is right there. They understand that buy orders are not a guarantee. Now they're left to make their own decisions based on that information. |
Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility
Casoff
1841
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Posted - 2013.11.24 04:14:00 -
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RubyPorto wrote:The market provides accurate information. The "problem" crops up when people make false assumptions about that information and draw inaccurate conclusions from those assumptions. They then complain about it rather than reworking their assumptions to match reality.
I see the only problem as the game is pretty damn complex and there's no instruction manual. Adding the small bit of information to the UI 'buy orders are not guaranteed to be backed by the full amount of ISK' continues the current development trend of making EVE easier to understand and manipulate while maintaining mechanical complexity |
Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility
Casoff
1842
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Posted - 2013.11.24 13:05:00 -
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RubyPorto wrote:Benny Ohu wrote:RubyPorto wrote:The market provides accurate information. The "problem" crops up when people make false assumptions about that information and draw inaccurate conclusions from those assumptions. They then complain about it rather than reworking their assumptions to match reality. I see the only problem as the game is pretty damn complex and there's no instruction manual. Adding the small bit of information to the UI 'buy orders are not guaranteed to be backed by the full amount of ISK' continues the current development trend of making EVE easier to understand and manipulate while maintaining mechanical complexity e: and cold dark harsh etc. if people ignore that piece of information, or don't factor it into their decisions, it's on their head I'm always a fan of UI being used to break people's false assumptions. I'm not quite a fan of your wording, maybe something like: "Orders shown are subject to change and/or revocation at any time, for any reason."
well at least we appear to agree on a plausible improvement if not the wording
I feel this is the best thing to do because it's visible, it informs players so they can help themselves, and it doesn't harm the market system or emergent gameplay. It's such a small change implementing it is no big deal, and if it didn't help the percieved problem of margin trade scamming, the change is easy to revoke. Finally, since no change was made to the skill or the market, a different solution can still be implemented at a later date if necessary.
There's no reason not to try it to see if it helps. If it doesn't help, keep iterating. |
Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility
Casoff
1843
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Posted - 2013.11.25 07:00:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Quote:- People should remember that subtle indirect signs of something just work with experience, and most scams are made targeting inexperient users. Provably false. Inexperienced players don't have the kind of money to fall for the typical Margin Trading scam. The entire rest of your premise is invalid, as it relies on that false assumption.
No. It is entirely plausible for an inexperienced player to have a few hundred million ISK. The margin trading scam does target people ignorant of market mechanics. The fact they are ignorant is not always their own fault, as the system is more opaque than it appears and information or explanation is not readily available.
This can be corrected. |
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